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	<title>Comments on: Why Cleveland Indians Fans Despise The New York Yankees</title>
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		<title>By: Carl</title>
		<link>http://paneech.com/2009/03/why-cleveland-indians-fans-despise-the-new-york-yankees/#comment-151</link>
		<dc:creator>Carl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 04:19:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The point is not, I&#039;m Italian so, I&#039;m a Yankee fan, nor is it I&#039;m from New York or my Mom&#039;s from New Jersey so, I root for the Yank&#039;s or the Giants.No bashing,you are the true fan.I&#039;ll respect you for that,we can agree to disagree.

 But, when a team ,any team starts winning, I see that guy (and we all know at least one) going out buying a new hat to slap on his front running balding scalp and a new jersey to cover his beer gut! These are the same guys that wore Steeler jerseys during the Bradshaw days and then a 49er jersey when Montana and Young ruled the roost.Bet they have a dusty Patriot&#039;s and Giant&#039;s jersey in their closet right next to the new Steeler hat and terrible towel.This guy is going out right now and getting himself a wine and gold # 23 to wear as I type,even after they told you they would never cheer for a lousy Cleveland team.
These fans are jokes and are the ones that I believe Paneechis referring to. Attending Cleveland games in that off colored clothing cheering for the visiting team (unless he&#039;s going to a Cavs playoff game). I got one thing to say,just go away and keep your opinions to yourself...us true fans really don&#039;t care.

By the way love the logo...nothing better than loving to hate the Yankees.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The point is not, I&#8217;m Italian so, I&#8217;m a Yankee fan, nor is it I&#8217;m from New York or my Mom&#8217;s from New Jersey so, I root for the Yank&#8217;s or the Giants.No bashing,you are the true fan.I&#8217;ll respect you for that,we can agree to disagree.</p>
<p> But, when a team ,any team starts winning, I see that guy (and we all know at least one) going out buying a new hat to slap on his front running balding scalp and a new jersey to cover his beer gut! These are the same guys that wore Steeler jerseys during the Bradshaw days and then a 49er jersey when Montana and Young ruled the roost.Bet they have a dusty Patriot&#8217;s and Giant&#8217;s jersey in their closet right next to the new Steeler hat and terrible towel.This guy is going out right now and getting himself a wine and gold # 23 to wear as I type,even after they told you they would never cheer for a lousy Cleveland team.<br />
These fans are jokes and are the ones that I believe Paneechis referring to. Attending Cleveland games in that off colored clothing cheering for the visiting team (unless he&#8217;s going to a Cavs playoff game). I got one thing to say,just go away and keep your opinions to yourself&#8230;us true fans really don&#8217;t care.</p>
<p>By the way love the logo&#8230;nothing better than loving to hate the Yankees.</p>
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		<title>By: Don W</title>
		<link>http://paneech.com/2009/03/why-cleveland-indians-fans-despise-the-new-york-yankees/#comment-52</link>
		<dc:creator>Don W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 15:09:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do believe I am the &quot;Yankee Fans&quot; Paneech refers to as the norm.  Let me explain.

Paneech is seeing the Yankee fan who goes to Indian games thus seeing, generally, a non-NYC Yankee fan.  I am one of these.  I first visited NYC in August of 2001 at the age 31.  I had been a Yankee fan since 1981 my first memory of this was listening to the 1981 WS after a cub scout meeting although I could hardly be called a fan at that point since I THINK I knew who Reggie Jackson was.  I had attended 5 Yankee games prior to my trip to NYC in either Seattle or Oakland with the first being in 1984.  That summer of 2001 was my first trip to Yankee Stadium.  Further, my favorite teams are; Yankees, Steelers, Celtics &amp; UNC in college basketball and my local Boise State Broncos in what ever they compete in. 

Bandwagoner right? Well I live in Boise Idaho and the nearest ML city is 350 miles away being Salt Lake.  The nearest MLB city is 500 miles away in Seattle.  So, if you permit me, I&#039;ll like who ever the heck I want to since there are no requirements to follow the closest out-of-state professional team that I&#039;m aware of.  While I didn&#039;t 

Why did I start to like the Yankees?  I don&#039;t know, maybe it was the Reggievision commercials.  Their history and legacy definitely appealed to me later on.  I started following them the in 1982 and didn&#039;t experience a playoff game for 13 years so I earned my fan card thank you.  In that late summer of 1995 I spend over a thousand bucks to get DirectTV so I could get MSG and the Yankee games, the next year was the advent of the MLB package. :(

As for my other teams: My affinity for my local BSU Broncos should be as obvious as yours for your local teams.  My dad was a big Celtic fan from the old days and I loved watching Larry Bird play.  I don&#039;t really like the one-on-one game of the NBA today but I still loved watching my C&#039;s rebirth last year.  I probably like the Steelers, (you REALLY hate my ass now don&#039;t you Paneech!), because they were in the last of their first 4 SB&#039;s when I watched my first one.  I think it had a lot to do with how cool their uni&#039;s looked compared to the Rams being that I was 9. ;)  UNC is due to Michael Jordan and the UNC vs. Georgetown NC game.  That was the first college basketball game I can remember watching and have followed UNC ever since.

To sum up:  What teams did I pick to like having no local teams?  The ones that were good and that I took a liking to.  I&#039;m not going to apologize for that because I chose my teams at the ages of 10 and 11 and have stuck with them through good times and bad.

Paneech, you might want to consider my story when thinking ill of those &quot;Cleveland fans&quot; that have the audacity to pull for the visiting team in Cleveland.  Maybe they&#039;re not Cleveland fans at all but fans that have re-located to the area or have traveled to see the game.  If they&#039;re implants what kind of fans would they be if just changed teams with their zip code?

If it helps you, think of all the money they just gave your team by going to the games against the Yankees and think about how that money might help your Indians actually BEAT those Yankees sometime.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do believe I am the &#8220;Yankee Fans&#8221; Paneech refers to as the norm.  Let me explain.</p>
<p>Paneech is seeing the Yankee fan who goes to Indian games thus seeing, generally, a non-NYC Yankee fan.  I am one of these.  I first visited NYC in August of 2001 at the age 31.  I had been a Yankee fan since 1981 my first memory of this was listening to the 1981 WS after a cub scout meeting although I could hardly be called a fan at that point since I THINK I knew who Reggie Jackson was.  I had attended 5 Yankee games prior to my trip to NYC in either Seattle or Oakland with the first being in 1984.  That summer of 2001 was my first trip to Yankee Stadium.  Further, my favorite teams are; Yankees, Steelers, Celtics &amp; UNC in college basketball and my local Boise State Broncos in what ever they compete in. </p>
<p>Bandwagoner right? Well I live in Boise Idaho and the nearest ML city is 350 miles away being Salt Lake.  The nearest MLB city is 500 miles away in Seattle.  So, if you permit me, I&#8217;ll like who ever the heck I want to since there are no requirements to follow the closest out-of-state professional team that I&#8217;m aware of.  While I didn&#8217;t </p>
<p>Why did I start to like the Yankees?  I don&#8217;t know, maybe it was the Reggievision commercials.  Their history and legacy definitely appealed to me later on.  I started following them the in 1982 and didn&#8217;t experience a playoff game for 13 years so I earned my fan card thank you.  In that late summer of 1995 I spend over a thousand bucks to get DirectTV so I could get MSG and the Yankee games, the next year was the advent of the MLB package. <img src='http://paneech.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>As for my other teams: My affinity for my local BSU Broncos should be as obvious as yours for your local teams.  My dad was a big Celtic fan from the old days and I loved watching Larry Bird play.  I don&#8217;t really like the one-on-one game of the NBA today but I still loved watching my C&#8217;s rebirth last year.  I probably like the Steelers, (you REALLY hate my ass now don&#8217;t you Paneech!), because they were in the last of their first 4 SB&#8217;s when I watched my first one.  I think it had a lot to do with how cool their uni&#8217;s looked compared to the Rams being that I was 9. <img src='http://paneech.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />   UNC is due to Michael Jordan and the UNC vs. Georgetown NC game.  That was the first college basketball game I can remember watching and have followed UNC ever since.</p>
<p>To sum up:  What teams did I pick to like having no local teams?  The ones that were good and that I took a liking to.  I&#8217;m not going to apologize for that because I chose my teams at the ages of 10 and 11 and have stuck with them through good times and bad.</p>
<p>Paneech, you might want to consider my story when thinking ill of those &#8220;Cleveland fans&#8221; that have the audacity to pull for the visiting team in Cleveland.  Maybe they&#8217;re not Cleveland fans at all but fans that have re-located to the area or have traveled to see the game.  If they&#8217;re implants what kind of fans would they be if just changed teams with their zip code?</p>
<p>If it helps you, think of all the money they just gave your team by going to the games against the Yankees and think about how that money might help your Indians actually BEAT those Yankees sometime.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://paneech.com/2009/03/why-cleveland-indians-fans-despise-the-new-york-yankees/#comment-51</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 14:04:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been a Yankee fan since I was a little kid.  The Yankees lost every year until 1976 when Chambliss put them back in the series.  The Orioles were the team then. Not all Yankees fans jump on the band wagon.  My favorite teams are the Yankees, Giants and the Knicks. When I was a teenager the Islanders won 4 cups in a row. I am from LI and it did not make me a fan. I am just not into hockey, I rooted for them but I was not a fan.

The fans you speak of are not &quot;true&quot; Yankees fans.  Stop disparaging all Yankee fans. The Knicks have not won in almost 30 years.  How long did the Giants stink? Remember &quot;The Fumble&quot;?  Give me a break. True fans are fans because they are generational fans...  I did not decide to to be a Yankee fan. It is just how it turned out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been a Yankee fan since I was a little kid.  The Yankees lost every year until 1976 when Chambliss put them back in the series.  The Orioles were the team then. Not all Yankees fans jump on the band wagon.  My favorite teams are the Yankees, Giants and the Knicks. When I was a teenager the Islanders won 4 cups in a row. I am from LI and it did not make me a fan. I am just not into hockey, I rooted for them but I was not a fan.</p>
<p>The fans you speak of are not &#8220;true&#8221; Yankees fans.  Stop disparaging all Yankee fans. The Knicks have not won in almost 30 years.  How long did the Giants stink? Remember &#8220;The Fumble&#8221;?  Give me a break. True fans are fans because they are generational fans&#8230;  I did not decide to to be a Yankee fan. It is just how it turned out.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://paneech.com/2009/03/why-cleveland-indians-fans-despise-the-new-york-yankees/#comment-50</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 13:51:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If that&#039;s your target then what&#039;s up with the giant anti-Yankee logo?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If that&#8217;s your target then what&#8217;s up with the giant anti-Yankee logo?</p>
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		<title>By: Paneech</title>
		<link>http://paneech.com/2009/03/why-cleveland-indians-fans-despise-the-new-york-yankees/#comment-49</link>
		<dc:creator>Paneech</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 05:07:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In response to the many comments, let me start by saying I am a full-blooded Italian.  I grew up around my full-blooded Italian relatives in the Cleveland area, who root for the Yankees.  People from New York are not understanding where I am coming from, it is the Cleveland area people who are the frontrunners by rooting for only teams that win.  My relatives, friends, acquaintances, and Cleveland area residents are who the article targets as frontrunners.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In response to the many comments, let me start by saying I am a full-blooded Italian.  I grew up around my full-blooded Italian relatives in the Cleveland area, who root for the Yankees.  People from New York are not understanding where I am coming from, it is the Cleveland area people who are the frontrunners by rooting for only teams that win.  My relatives, friends, acquaintances, and Cleveland area residents are who the article targets as frontrunners.</p>
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		<title>By: john leach</title>
		<link>http://paneech.com/2009/03/why-cleveland-indians-fans-despise-the-new-york-yankees/#comment-48</link>
		<dc:creator>john leach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 04:54:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Baseball needs a salary cap because it has worked so well in the other sports. If only baseball had a salary cap then the indians could be as good as the Browns.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Baseball needs a salary cap because it has worked so well in the other sports. If only baseball had a salary cap then the indians could be as good as the Browns.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank</title>
		<link>http://paneech.com/2009/03/why-cleveland-indians-fans-despise-the-new-york-yankees/#comment-47</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 03:24:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So not only is this column ignorant and biased but it&#039;s also promoting stereotypes and prejudice?  Well done.

Cleveland has a very unhealthy obsession (hatred) for New York that really needs to calm down.  I guess no one has noticed the green, red, blue and pink hats appearing in every stadium with two red socks on them.

Every city has bandwagon fans.  Don&#039;t blame New York for it.  Get a grip on yourself.  The Tribe beat the Yanks in the playoffs in &#039;07.

And Muhammad Ali is the greatest boxer of all-time.  That&#039;s not even debatable...wherever you&#039;re from.  If Rocky Marciano is the greatest boxer of all time, then you&#039;re the greatest writer of all time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So not only is this column ignorant and biased but it&#8217;s also promoting stereotypes and prejudice?  Well done.</p>
<p>Cleveland has a very unhealthy obsession (hatred) for New York that really needs to calm down.  I guess no one has noticed the green, red, blue and pink hats appearing in every stadium with two red socks on them.</p>
<p>Every city has bandwagon fans.  Don&#8217;t blame New York for it.  Get a grip on yourself.  The Tribe beat the Yanks in the playoffs in &#8217;07.</p>
<p>And Muhammad Ali is the greatest boxer of all-time.  That&#8217;s not even debatable&#8230;wherever you&#8217;re from.  If Rocky Marciano is the greatest boxer of all time, then you&#8217;re the greatest writer of all time.</p>
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		<title>By: RJ324</title>
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		<dc:creator>RJ324</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 02:44:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a die hard Yankee fan and have been since as far back as I can remember. I think you grouping Yankee fans and Yankee bandwagoners together is just wrong. The Yankees have a ton of bandwagon fans, I am not denying that, but to act like the majority of us are front runners is just crazy and wrong. In your experience most may be, but I would be willing to bet most of us are die hard New Yorkers supporting our team. I go to dozens of games every season, most Yankee fans I come across are not front runners in any sense of the phrase. 

I am not trying to be an ass, I am just saying how I feel. I mean I understand what you are talking about, it must suck to go to your home team&#039;s park and feel like you are at the other teams park. Most people who are Yankee fans who go to ball games not in the North East or Florida are probably bandwagon fans, but the majority of us are not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a die hard Yankee fan and have been since as far back as I can remember. I think you grouping Yankee fans and Yankee bandwagoners together is just wrong. The Yankees have a ton of bandwagon fans, I am not denying that, but to act like the majority of us are front runners is just crazy and wrong. In your experience most may be, but I would be willing to bet most of us are die hard New Yorkers supporting our team. I go to dozens of games every season, most Yankee fans I come across are not front runners in any sense of the phrase. </p>
<p>I am not trying to be an ass, I am just saying how I feel. I mean I understand what you are talking about, it must suck to go to your home team&#8217;s park and feel like you are at the other teams park. Most people who are Yankee fans who go to ball games not in the North East or Florida are probably bandwagon fans, but the majority of us are not.</p>
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